My Yulong River Rafting Adventure (Part 2)

Posted by : foongpc | Monday, October 19, 2009 | Published in


Continued from Part 1

Yulong River, which is a tributary of Li River, is approximately 15 km west of Yangshuo town. It is about 43 km long but our river rafting only covers about 15 km from Yulong Bridge Pier in Baisha town to Gongnong Bridge Pier near Big Banyan. You can refer to the map here.

The word "yulong" means "meet the dragon" in English. According to a local legend, a dragon from the East Sea once strolled across the Yulong River and was so taken in by the beautiful landscape that it decided to stay there forever. Villagers living on the river bank claimed to have seen the dragon, hence the name Yulong River.

We started out from Yulong Bridge Pier. I took this photo of the ancient Yulong bridge from where I sat on the raft.


It is not everyday that we get to see such ancient single-curvature arch bridge! Did you know this stone bridge is about 600 years old? There are 2 other similar single arch bridges nearby namely Xiangui Bridge and Fuli Bridge, but we did not pass them.

These were houses by the river.


I noticed that the river was quite shallow at certain spots. In fact, you could even see through the water to the riverbed. According to wikipedia, Yulong River has a maximum depth of 5 metres and an average width of about 25 metres.

I found the scenery simply mesmerizing! Yulong River was like Li River, only it's smaller and probably more beautiful!


I love the reflections on the water!


Oh! Does this look like a frog to you? It sure does to me!


Jam and his friend were on one raft while I was alone on another. Of course each raft has a rafter to steer the raft. The photo below shows Jam and his friend ahead of me.


Sitting on the reclining chair aboard the raft, I felt totally relaxed and was enjoying the beautiful views all around me!


If it wasn't that hot, and if I wasn't busy taking photos, I would not mind taking a nap! But I soon learnt that napping was impossible and you'll know why in a moment.

I was about to sit back on my reclining chair and relax myself when my rafter warned me to look out.

I sat back up straight and saw this!


Oh no! This must be the surprise Jam mentioned earlier. My guess was right! We were going down! Help!! I do not know how to swim and if I fall into the water, I am going to hold Jam totally responsible!

I quickly capped my camera lens and held on tight. I was not going to take any photos while on the way down! Firstly, I needed to hold on tight in case I got flung out of my seat! And secondly, I did not want the water to splash onto my camera and damage it!

We reached the edge. My rafter skillfully manoeuvred the raft. I held my breath as we dropped. In a matter of seconds, it was over.

Looking back, I took this photo.


We had just dropped down a weir dam! It was not as thrilling as dropping down a cliff, but still being my first time, it was thrilling enough for me.


And if I thought this was the only weir dam we had to cross, I was wrong. Throughout the entire journey, we had to go over no less than 20 weir dams! Now you know why I said earlier that napping was impossible. But after some time, it was no longer thrilling. And I think I could take a nap while going down. Haha!


The weir dams were constructed to irrigate the farmlands on both sides of the river. They were also used as walkways for both humans and animals to cross the river during dry season when the river was more shallow.


Having crossed the weir dams during this river rafting, I came to trust the safety of these rafts. A lot of readers commented that they would not sit on the rafts as they looked risky and dangerous but from my experience, they were not dangerous at all! Not once did my raft flipped when going over the weir dams!

I think the river water does not flow very fast here therefore the rafts are suitable and do not pose a risk. Besides, I learnt that the Chinese Government had approved the use of these rafts and the rafters or raftsmen have to undergo training and obtain licence before allowed to steer the rafts. All in all, I feel it's very safe but it would be better if they provide life jackets as that would definitely enhance our safety.

After passing the first weir dam, our rafters stopped and let us down to see farmers working on the farmlands.


A farmer plowing in the rice fields with the aid of a cow.



Do you know what these rice straws are for?


After spending some time on the farmland, we went back to our rafts and continued our journey downstream. There were no motor boats plying the river - only bamboo rafts. I loved the simple, natural and rural life here! Of course, I am a city boy at heart and I still think I belong to the city. Haha! But a break from city life sure helps to rejuvenate the soul!

I decided to put my leg into the water. Ooh! It's so cooling and refreshing!


A dragonfly flew towards me and rested on the raft. I quickly snapped a photo of it.


The natural landscape around Yulong River never ceased to amaze me. Look! Can you see a Chinese pagoda in this photo below?


No? Tilt your head to the left and you'll probably see it.

My rafter pointed out the pagoda to me, but I have forgotten which of the photos I took represents the pagoda!

How about this one?


No? Maybe I did not take the photo at the right angle.

Now, this looks more like the top part of a pagoda to me! What do you think?


The reflection on the water was simply stunning!



Soon, we approached a bridge. I think it's called Xiandu Bridge.



Here's the close up view of the Xiandu Bridge as we were about to pass under it.


This is my rafter.


We had a hard time communicating with each other as he spoke mostly Mandarin and I could not understand most of it. Well, I guess I just tried my best to make out what he said.

At one time, he pointed to the water and asked me to look.

I said, "Kàn​ shén​me?" (What to see?)

"Fish!" he exclaimed.

"Oh! Nǐ​ zhī​dao​ zěn​me​ shuō Yīng​ wén!"​ (You know how to speak English!)

"Yī​diǎn​r" (Just a little) he said, smiling.

I think that's the only English word he spoke actually. Haha! Wait! There's another word he knew.

There was once he pointed to a hill in front and said, "Hàn​bǎo​bao! hamburger!"

I looked at where he pointed and sure enough there was a hamburger right in front of me!


A giant hamburger in fact, haha!

Then I looked down at my feet and I saw this.


Now isn't that funny? Talking about hàn​bǎo​bao! I was wearing a pair of McD slippers! LOL!

As we continued downstream, the sun was getting hotter. Although the umbrella provided some shade, it was not enough. I had to reapply my sun block to avoid getting fried!


We were about to approach another weir dam where we would be getting down to observe the irrigation system there. However, something unexpected happened. I met with an accident!

To be continued...


(101) Comments

  1. Willie a.k.a Reptoz said...

    I noticed that in your photos, some of the rivers looked green. Was it really green? Looking at the surrounding, It reminds me of the old Chines movie where Kung Fu was the highlight. I imagined there was fung sai yuk there. Ahaks! What an imagination right?

    October 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM
  2. khengsiong said...

    Your legs -_-"

    I don't mind if you shoot a long-legged Chinese beauty and show us the photos here, LOL...

    October 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM
  3. lina said...

    Interesting (and good too) to know that the rafters are government regulated.

    Well, if the rafts are not safe, there'll be plenty of accidents and nobody wants to ride them, right?

    October 19, 2009 at 10:19 AM
  4. lina said...

    I'm biting my nails waiting for the next installment. :D

    October 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM
  5. CheaHSan said...

    Wow! What an exhilarating rafting experience. Can imagine you holding on tightly on the chair with jaws wide open as you rough it off during the first weir encounter. Got arrgghhhh loudly or not?

    October 19, 2009 at 11:11 AM
  6. Superman said...

    Really nice photos...Can't get enough of it. Anymore? I can't afford to go there but at least I can see more of it from you. :)

    October 19, 2009 at 11:23 AM
  7. CheaHSan said...

    Love the pixs very much and bonus with the reflection. Sorry cannot figure out the pagoda you're positive the rafter said 'pagoda'? haha. Chicken and duck talk for five hours phew painful to both ears and tongue? Thanks for taking us on a detailed guided tour on Yulong river looking forward for more 'meet the dragon' adventures.

    October 19, 2009 at 11:27 AM
  8. jam said...

    I believe the accident you met has made this Yulong River an unforgettable experience in you for many years to come. Exactly like what your fengshui master had pointed out before you went to Guilin! I am happy to hear that you like the surprise I had installed for you. After all, our journey this time is full with surprise!

    October 19, 2009 at 11:42 AM
  9. xin said...

    LOL. ok show us more skin pls :P dipping yr legs into the water.. on your way down the dam!!! :P

    but wow, the scenery is really so so so beautiful!

    October 19, 2009 at 11:52 AM
  10. Che-Cheh said...

    Ohh I saw the pagodas! Half of it are reflections from water right?

    October 19, 2009 at 1:13 PM
  11. [SK] said...

    oh my god, amazing sceneries!! and i must say the reflections are stunning!! yeah, that mountain looks like a froggie to me, and thanks for telling me how the "pagoda" was formed by the mountains and water.. cool stuff!!

    October 19, 2009 at 1:53 PM
  12. foongpc said...

    willie, yes it was really green! Fung Sai Yuk? Haha! Good imagination! But I won't be surprised if some Chinese movies were filmed there : )

    October 19, 2009 at 2:02 PM
  13. foongpc said...

    khengsiong, I like to take photos of landscapes and nature, not legged beauties! LOL!

    October 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM
  14. foongpc said...

    lina, yes you are right - if the rafts are not safe, there'll bound to be accidents. Part 3 coming up soon : )

    October 19, 2009 at 2:05 PM
  15. foongpc said...

    cheahs@n, actually no. I didn't make any noise, haha! It was not that scary actually, in fact I enjoyed the way down but I was also busy shielding my camera from the splashing water : )

    October 19, 2009 at 2:07 PM
  16. foongpc said...

    superman, you should make attempts to go there and see the beautiful landscape for yourself! I don't think my photos do justice to the real thing! More photos coming up in Part 3 : )

    October 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM
  17. foongpc said...

    cheahs@n, yes it's definitely a pagoda and not something else. Can't see it? You have to imagine it and combine the hills and mountains with the reflection in the water to create the pagoda image.

    Yes, chicken and duck talk for 5 hours!! LOL!

    October 19, 2009 at 2:10 PM
  18. foongpc said...

    jam, yes the accident did make our trip more memorable! And thanks for the surprise although I already suspected something like that! : )

    October 19, 2009 at 2:11 PM
  19. foongpc said...

    xin, I am too busy protecting my camera from the water on the way down the weir dam to even attempt to dip my legs into the water! Haha!

    October 19, 2009 at 2:12 PM
  20. foongpc said...

    che-cheh, yes you are right! : )

    October 19, 2009 at 2:13 PM
  21. foongpc said...

    SK, glad you like the photos. Yes, the sceneries are amazing - I think one of the most beautiful among all the places I visited during my trip there : )

    October 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM
  22. lina said...

    One thing good about using these rafts I guess is that it is manual and don't pollute the river.

    But imagine trying to eke a living under the hot sun, day in day out. Makes me thankful of my cushy job. I shouldn't complain abt my job so much.

    October 19, 2009 at 3:26 PM
  23. foongpc said...

    lina, yes you shouldn't. We all should be thankful and not complain too much! Every time we complain about our jobs, maybe we should remember about these people working in the hot sun! That will definitely put things into perspective : )

    October 19, 2009 at 3:42 PM
  24. Faisal Admar said...

    whoa! the pictures are beautiful :) the river is so green.

    why no body swim in the river eh?

    hmm yes i'd agree with you. the reflection is so beautiful!

    btw, have you ever thought that a crocodile would break the raft? LOL.

    omg! i'd be as worry as you if i see that too! and of course i'd be worried about my camera as well!!! gees.

    sleep while go through the dam? you kidding right?

    i realize you got a very hairy legs as well LOL.

    October 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM
  25. J2Kfm said...

    very crisp shots of the surrounding, foong.
    almost felt the breeze and the sense of tranquility.

    October 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM
  26. CheaHSan said...

    OIC yes! Can see the pagoda now, aiya bit slow today oops maybe Monday or probably not enough sleep after watching F1 live. Just wondering you sat alone and the other chair is empty, will the raft be "senget"? [not balance]. Please don't get me wrong, not implying you are gigantic. If it "senget" then the manouvering would be tougher or probably just the same?

    October 19, 2009 at 4:13 PM
  27. foongpc said...

    faisal, actually there were some people swimming in the river but I did not get good shots of them.

    Crocodile? From what I know, there's no crocodiles in Yulong River. If there are, I don't think I would have gone rafting! Luckily that was NOT the surprise in store for me! LOL!

    My legs are pretty hairy right? Haha! How about yours? LOL!

    October 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM
  28. foongpc said...

    J2Kfm, wow so good meh? Thanks to LX3! : )

    October 19, 2009 at 4:29 PM
  29. foongpc said...

    cheahs@n, so you finally see it! Good! Haha, must be not enough sleep still blurry.

    No, the raft won't go senget cos it's much heavier than me. Btw, I only weigh 63kg, so won't cause the raft to go one sided. Haha!

    October 19, 2009 at 4:32 PM
  30. Tekkaus said...

    I like the first photo very much foong...minus the raft of course. :p

    October 19, 2009 at 4:32 PM
  31. Tekkaus said... this Yulong river is actually a tributary? Now I know. :p

    Means meet the dragon? Is it the fish Arapaima Gigas? :p

    October 19, 2009 at 4:33 PM
  32. Tekkaus said...

    What? The bridge is 600 years old already? Damn! Our forefathers can really build bridge that last huh! Now like our stadium here that Runtuh! ;P

    October 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM
  33. Tekkaus said...

    I thing this river is much more serene from previous one.

    haha :D So did you expect that surprise?

    October 19, 2009 at 4:35 PM
  34. Tekkaus said...

    Your rafter really know his stuff huh! :p Must be like on roller coaster ride aye. those damns are also used during the dry season as damns? I know.

    October 19, 2009 at 4:37 PM
  35. Tekkaus said...

    Lucky you Foong! You still managed to witness the historic plowing of paddy field using buffalo. ;p

    October 19, 2009 at 4:39 PM
  36. Tekkaus said...

    Hahahaha :D Suddenly you show your McD's sandals. Talking about hamburgers huh!

    October 19, 2009 at 4:39 PM
  37. Tekkaus said...

    I agree with your bro. The scenes here are absolutely stunning. I think I will be breathless if I were there. :p

    October 19, 2009 at 4:40 PM
  38. manglish said...

    AWESOME pics!!!!! :)

    October 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM
  39. Unseen India Tours said...

    Beautiful and lovely shots !! Nice post..

    October 19, 2009 at 6:22 PM
  40. Borneo Falcon said...

    I will feel safer if I put a lifejacket on

    October 19, 2009 at 6:26 PM
  41. ladyviral said...

    Very beautiful scenery...

    oh yes the reflections in the water are sobeautiful! looks like something out of a jigsaw puzzle.. or the pictures! oh wait this are pitures too! XD

    October 19, 2009 at 8:11 PM
  42. ladyviral said...

    This definitely looks like scenes from shows. I guess those scenes are real :P. And here we always think it is from studios! hahah :P

    October 19, 2009 at 8:13 PM
  43. ladyviral said...

    Pagoda I saw! Frog yea it does look like it! I love the picture where reflects the trees in the water.. lovely just lovely.

    Oh you all had to go by weir dams? Wow... how did the rafter did it? Tilt the raft front first :P? Got seat belt to tie yoursef to the seat or not?

    October 19, 2009 at 8:14 PM
  44. ladyviral said...

    Hamburger! Cannot see cheese though... but got McD at your feet :P. How did you even get a McD slippers o_o?

    October 19, 2009 at 8:17 PM
  45. wenn said...

    interesting trip..

    October 19, 2009 at 8:57 PM
  46. Ken Wooi said...

    the scenery there is so peaceful! very nice!
    and the frog.. yes i can see it! =D

    October 19, 2009 at 9:03 PM
  47. Gallivanter said...

    Is that the haze or pure mist? Very haunting effect - nice!

    October 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM
  48. Anonymous

    Good thing your raft guide skillfully steered you safely over the weir dam....otherwise, you would have gotten a good dunking in the water...hehe.

    Btw, pretty dragonfly! :)

    October 19, 2009 at 9:51 PM
  49. LifeRamblings said...

    for some reason, i can only view first few pics. the bottom ones are missing.

    October 19, 2009 at 10:03 PM
  50. LifeRamblings said...

    lovely shots and nice reflections.

    October 19, 2009 at 10:05 PM
  51. grace said...

    foong your river adventures look really beautiful!

    haha we bloggers must always have our cameras on us to take pictures of beautiful and interesting things we see =)

    October 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM
  52. HappySurfer said...

    Awesome pictures, Foong. Those pictures with the reflection is reminiscent of artwork, like squeezing paint from the tube then folding the paper into half to get the identical imprint.

    5 hours on the river? Gosh! That's really a long river-ride. How about meals? Got buffet on board or not? hehe..

    Good that there is a stop to observe farmers at work. Must have been quite an experience.

    October 20, 2009 at 12:14 AM
  53. HappySurfer said...

    Yep! Saw the frog, the hamburger, the McD slippers, and the pagodas. All very nice. The dragonfly - so sweet..

    Thanks for reassuring that the rafting is safe though an inclusion of a life-jacket makes the world of difference. I wonder why the Chinese govt did not include that as law together with the licensing?!

    October 20, 2009 at 12:19 AM
  54. HappySurfer said...

    Ooh! the accident next? Bloody or not?

    October 20, 2009 at 12:20 AM
  55. Mariuca said...

    I love the water reflection photos oso!!!

    October 20, 2009 at 2:57 AM
  56. Monica said...

    wow so beautiful!!!! nice shots Foong! ;)

    October 20, 2009 at 4:29 AM
  57. Ayie said...

    SO there goes the much awaited foong's accident! will keep tuned in for your next post!

    so funny with that hamburger and mcD slippers!

    the views are captivating. I was trying to pick out the best view but it's just so hard to pin point which is which. I find the natural photo views better to paint than the souvenirs you got! Ohhh, up to now i haven't started on any!

    October 20, 2009 at 6:51 AM
  58. Ayie said...

    oh yes, the reflections....great!

    October 20, 2009 at 6:52 AM
  59. levian said...

    wow, i can't imagine dropping down that dam, no matter how small it was! amazing experience it must be. :D

    October 20, 2009 at 8:08 AM
  60. iamthewitch said...

    Wah what an exciting experience with the raft! I think I wouldn't mind riding on one of those after having experience with white water rafting! LOL

    October 20, 2009 at 9:52 AM
  61. Shingo T said...

    Just a little observation here - you have hairy legs. Darn, I wished I had more hair on my legs.

    Ok, coming back... I see the froggie and the hamburger mountains too. =p

    I wanna do river rafting too should I go there.

    October 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM
  62. Pete said...

    The greenish jade colour water looks very peaceful. Love the reflexion of the tree on the water surface!

    October 20, 2009 at 1:13 PM
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  64. eiling lim said...

    Wow so many photos and I must say that the river is indeed scenic. The mountain did looked like a toad's back. haha

    October 20, 2009 at 9:17 PM
  65. Becklee said...

    Beautiful pictures you have here and your Yulong River trip sure looks exciting. Thanks for dropping by my blog.

    October 20, 2009 at 9:22 PM
  66. CheaHSan said...

    foongpc ~ all of us got carried away by the raft and the nice lovely pixs and totally abandoned pix 16 on rice straws.[kesian on em]. Yeah what are they for? To feed cows and horses or to be burned and used as fertilizers or making straw hats? Simply tembak..

    October 21, 2009 at 12:23 AM
  67. Cashmere said...

    Wow! What a scenic journey! Wouold love to ride on it.. Love how green the water is.. :) Thankfully, nothing happened to your camera. I would have been scaared stiff and like guard it with my whole life if I were you. lol!

    October 21, 2009 at 4:33 AM
  68. Faisal Admar said...

    mine is smooth :P so won't make any of the girls out there tempted :P

    oh... they swim naked?

    October 21, 2009 at 8:52 AM
  69. foongpc said...

    tekkaus, haha no the dragon is not arapaima gigas - that's a fish!

    Yeah, old bridge but still standing unlike our stadium! LOL!

    Yes, I sort of guessed the surprise to be something like that.

    You should go there and you'll be breathless! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM
  70. foongpc said...

    manglish, thanks! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM
  71. foongpc said...

    unseen rajasthan, thanks! Glad you like it : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:32 PM
  72. foongpc said...

    borneo falcon, me too! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:32 PM
  73. foongpc said...

    ladyviral, yeah I also used to think those scenes are fake, but now I know they are real!

    Haha! No seat belt. I just held on tight to my seats to prevent myself from falling into the river! LOL! Actually, it's not that easy to fall into the river. Yes, the rafter had to be skillful : )

    The McD slippers I got from the hostel where I stayed. Haha!

    October 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM
  74. foongpc said...

    wenn, yes it's interesting and enjoyable : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:37 PM
  75. foongpc said...

    kenwooi, good thing you can see the frog! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:37 PM
  76. foongpc said...

    gallivanter, I think it's the mist. Yes, very ethereal effect - wonder if I used the right word! ; )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM
  77. foongpc said...

    mei teng, yeah, they are pretty skillful. I love the dragonfly! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:39 PM
  78. foongpc said...

    life ramblings, I still don't know why the pictures do not appear complete to you. Maybe connection or server problem?

    October 22, 2009 at 2:40 PM
  79. foongpc said...

    grace, oh yes! A camera is a must for bloggers and is absolutely compulsory during travels! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:41 PM
  80. foongpc said...

    happysurfer,reminiscent of artwork, like squeezing paint from the tube then folding the paper into half to get the identical imprint? Yes, I agree with you! Haha!

    No buffets on board - who would take the food to us right? LOL! But we did stop for lunch - will be in my next post : )

    I don't know why the Government didn't include life jackets - maybe they think the rafters can save us if we fall into the river? LOL!

    Will blog about my accident soon! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:45 PM
  81. foongpc said...

    mariuca, yes love the reflections! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:45 PM
  82. foongpc said...

    monica, thanks! But I don't think my photos can do justice to the real thing! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:46 PM
  83. foongpc said...

    ayie, I'm looking forward to your paintings. Yes, you may paint some of the photos here! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:47 PM
  84. foongpc said...

    levian, it was thrilling the first time but after a few times, it's no longer thrilling. Maybe I should try white water rafting next! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:48 PM
  85. foongpc said...

    iamthewitch, yeah if you have tried white water rafting, this is probably nothing! But then don't forget I don't know how to swim and there's no life jackets! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:49 PM
  86. foongpc said...

    shingo T, is that a compliment? : )

    So it's good to have hairy legs? LOL!

    October 22, 2009 at 2:50 PM
  87. foongpc said...

    pete, yes very peaceful that's why I could almost sleep in my reclining chair! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:51 PM
  88. foongpc said...

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    October 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM
  89. foongpc said...

    eiling lim, yeah, it's probably called toad hill or frog mountain or something! LOL!

    October 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM
  90. foongpc said...

    becklee, you are welcome and thanks! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM
  91. foongpc said...

    cheahs@n, you simply tembak but hit the bullseye! Yes, it's food for the cows! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:54 PM
  92. foongpc said...

    cashmere, haha! I'm sure you would especially if your camera is a DSLR and more expensive than mine! : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:55 PM
  93. foongpc said...

    faisal, you have smooth legs? Hmm, you shave them or what? ; )

    Swim naked? No lah, if not I would have asked my rafter to stop so I could enjoy free show : )

    October 22, 2009 at 2:59 PM
  94. Ayie said...

    I've been drawing lately but haven't started with paintings. Maybe once i get my materials ready =) thanks =)

    October 23, 2009 at 4:32 AM
  95. Ciela said...

    Whew! It was a very exciting tour I had. I feel like I was tagging along with you on that river rafting of yours! Great post!

    October 24, 2009 at 8:49 AM
  96. foongpc said...

    ayie, don't worry and don't put pressure on yourself. But don't take too long! LOL!

    November 4, 2009 at 1:04 AM
  97. foongpc said...

    beng gee, glad you like it! Thanks! : )

    November 4, 2009 at 1:04 AM
  98. Ayie said...

    I actually made some drawings already foong but not color rendered. Will post those soon =)

    November 7, 2009 at 8:26 AM
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